{"id":8439,"date":"2013-03-12T17:26:45","date_gmt":"2013-03-13T00:26:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/iamsignificant.ca\/?p=8439"},"modified":"2018-09-29T17:52:03","modified_gmt":"2018-09-29T17:52:03","slug":"8439","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iamsignificant.ca\/home\/featured\/8439\/","title":{"rendered":"Culture of Love in the Trinity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">One of the things we like to do as human beings <\/span>is<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> to figure out whose in charge, who runs things or if you like, who has the power. \u00a0Once we get an idea of where the power lies, we want to figure out what our position is relative to that power, and then, in some cases learn what gets us closer to that power and what will take us further away. \u00a0This very human activity is learned early in life as we become socialized. \u00a0We soon learn there is a pecking order in our social circles and the person at the top of the proverbial food chain is there because they have \u2018something\u2019 that others see as desirous -knowledge, looks, strength, institutional authority, finances, charisma or to put it all very simply, they have power. \u00a0This power provides them with a kind of authority over the others in that community. \u00a0This power affords them the ability to make decisions that impact the community, that sets the direction and the standards for the community. \u00a0It also allows them the ability to reward those who serve them well and punish\/discipline those who do not conform.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">Of course, this power can be used in several different ways. \u00a0History is full of examples of this power being used in good and noble ways, and also some very terrible ways. \u00a0Regardless, the fact remains power and the hierarchy that forms to serve it is a reality of life in the community. \u00a0Hierarchy uses power and authority to order the community \u2013 to care for the needs of the community and also help ensure that we play nice together. \u00a0This is done by the person(s) with the power rewarding acceptable behavior and faithfulness to the values, and of course, punishing to discourage behaviors and ideas that are contrary to the values. \u00a0In a community where we haven\u2019t learned to genuinely love\u00a0each other, power can be used in healthy ways to care for and develop the community. \u00a0It will always rely on the presence of power to reward and to punish to keep people in the community in order. \u00a0It can be very effective at managing behavior but not so good at changing hearts!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">When we use our power as a tool to compete with others and establish our value and identity in relation to others in the community by comparing ourselves to others value or power, we create <\/span>hierarchy<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">. \u00a0Hierarchy is about competition. Hierarchy is a system that orders things or people from the top down, where often the most powerful\u00a0are at the top and then those which are judged to be less are ranked and ordered, and they become subordinate. This, not unlike your relationship with your manager at work. \u00a0A typical hierarchy has very few at the top, and they tend to wield the most power, and the subordinates have less and less power as we work our way down the hierarchy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">We are all very familiar with this way of structuring life. \u00a0As such, it is common for us to read Scripture and see God through the eyes of hierarchy because we can\u2019t comprehend relationship without centralized control or an established pecking order. \u00a0We are blind to other possibilities especially ones that do not use coercive power to maintain order. One such alternative is perfect love;\u00a0a culture of community that is genuinely loving and works because it is so \u2013 there is no need to establish a pecking order, to subordinate another because, in a community of perfect love, each exists to serve, care and honor one another above getting their own way, without having to be in control. In perfect love, serving each other is a fruit of devotion not an obligation to a superior. \u00a0In the Trinity, they are One and Three; they esteem each other because they love each other, not based on what each may bring to the table or who holds the trump card. \u00a0They share the same heart, desires, values, <\/span>and<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> mission, and as such, there is simply no need to have a \u201cboss\u201d or to establish control within the Trinity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">When we see the Father serving the Son, the Son serving the Father and the <\/span>Spirt<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> serving the Father and Son, this is not out of obligation to some position in a chain of command rather, if an obligation at all, it is an obligation of love.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">\u201c\u2026 \u201cYou know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.<\/span><\/strong>\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">\u2013 Matthew 20:25-28<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">In spite of this, there is a popular notion in some parts of North American Christianity that insists there is a hierarchy in the Trinity. \u00a0Subordination-ism asserts that Jesus and Holy Spirit are subordinate to God the Father. It suggests that God the Father is somehow different enough to be more God than Jesus. The Creeds affirm Jesus as fully God (and fully human), so for there to be <\/span>hierarchy<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> in the Trinity Jesus must be in some way qualitatively less than God.\u00a0 How is He different from Father God as to be subordinate? \u00a0If this is the case, in what way do they cease to be one? \u00a0If this is truly the case, was Jesus\u2019 sacrifice for us on the cross somehow diminished if He is somehow less than fully God?<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"><strong>Heavens no!<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">You can\u2019t have a \u201csubordinate-God.\u201d \u00a0It\u2019s an oxymoron. We must realize that God-Man (Jesus) is our God \u2013 we love, serve and have a <\/span>relationship<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> with One God who in ways we don\u2019t understand is Three (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">The idea of subordination in the Trinity is often used as a means to give divine legitimacy to hierarchical structures in other areas. Unfortunately, this issue has and continues to open the door for a grievous misuse of power in churches, \u00a0in the role of women in church leadership, and how men and women relate to one another in marriage relationships just to name a few examples. Subordination-ism seriously inhibits and denatures maturing authentic love \u2013 i.e., Christlikeness in church communities and families &#8211; arresting them in the fallen nature of power-based authority instead of calling them to authentic unity based upon authentic love, which if we need to talk about authority \u2013 is <\/span>relational<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> authority.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">__________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><b>\u00a0\u201c<\/b>There is a nice symmetry in this: Death initially came by a man, and resurrection from death came by a man. Everybody dies in Adam; everybody comes alive in Christ. But we have to wait our turn: Christ is first, then those with him at his Coming, the grand consummation when, after crushing the opposition, he hands over his kingdom to God the Father. He won\u2019t let up until the last enemy is down\u2014and the very last enemy is death! As the psalmist said, \u201cHe laid them low, one and all; he walked all over them.\u201d When Scripture says that \u201che walked all over them,\u201d it\u2019s obvious that he couldn\u2019t at the same time be walked on. When everything and everyone is finally under God\u2019s rule, the Son will step down, taking his place with everyone else, showing that God\u2019s rule is absolutely comprehensive\u2014a perfect ending!\u201d \u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">&#8211; <span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">1 Corinthians 15:21-28 \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>The Message<\/em><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">\u00a0__________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">Sometimes folks suggest 1 Corinthians 15: 21-28 demonstrates Jesus\u2019 subordination to the Father. Verse 28, \u201cWhen everything and everyone <\/span>is<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"> finally under God\u2019s rule, the Son will step down, taking his place with everyone else, showing that God\u2019s rule is absolutely comprehensive\u2014a perfect ending!\u201d \u00a0I think a key to understanding this is not through the eyes of hierarchy within the Trinity but with what lies in verse 21: \u201cThere is a nice symmetry in this: Death initially came by a man, and resurrection from death came by a man.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">Through the lens of Jesus acting as a representative man, we can bring a healthier context to verse 28. \u00a0Verse 28 is not a commentary on His status within the Trinity. Jesus in His incarnation, as a representative man was subordinate to God. \u00a0 1 Corinthians 15 is about the created cosmos being restored and coming into (union with) God just as humanity was brought into God through the representative man Jesus. This text is about <\/span>union<span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">, not subordination.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Jesus was fully God and of the same substance as that which makes God God, so he could bring the fullness of the life of God to humankind. \u00a0 Likewise, Jesus being fully human brings the fullness of God and the fullness of humanity to unity in Himself, making a way for restored relationship.<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> \u2013 \u00a0Michael Rose, Becoming Love. Avoiding Common Forms of Christian Insanity<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">The Kingdom of God is and continues to be about a relationship of perfect love. Not just a renewed set of laws and authoritative structures but the divine invitation to a life-changing relationship with the lover and creator of our souls. An invitation to leave our guilt, shame and its need for power, control,\u00a0to be first, and to learn\/grow into a new way of being human. \u00a0As followers of Jesus, we are in the process of becoming love. \u00a0Rules and laws in and of themselves are akin to changing who we are by putting on a coat. \u00a0Where in Christ we are actually changed from the inside out. \u00a0We are talking about the process of transforming not conforming. \u00a0In the process of this becoming, we mature in love, and this then governs how we work and live together. Instead of law, jot and tittle, being best, first, strongest and being right for all the wrong reasons, it becomes about love; mercy, forgiveness, gentleness, sharing, serving, honoring one another, caring for one another and so forth. \u00a0And surprise\u2026we will discover that as we embrace love, we will quite naturally fulfill the law. (Ga. 5:14)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">Yes, we are in the process of becoming, and this process is often very messy as we and others learn this new way to live. \u00a0 In a very practical sense then healthy shared power that is stewarded well can provide safety and structure for healthy individuals and community as we learn to love well. \u00a0The key to remember is any power based, hierarchical structures we employ here and now are remedial, and most certainly not a blueprint for the fullness of the Kingdom of God. \u00a0We can see the function of hierarchy and its resulting subordination as one tool to manage our brokenness, but we cannot extend divine legitimacy for it by creating subordination in the Trinity itself!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">If we still have to hammer out whose in charge, it is only made necessary by our human inability to love one another and our need to manage this brokenness. On this basis, for example, some may choose to rationalize why Pastors are the \u2018top-dog,\u2019 the \u2018more equal among equals\u2019 for an ordered Church community to function, but certainly not on the basis that it is somehow demonstrated in the Trinity. \u00a0Yes, we need healthy structures and healthy leaders as we are maturing into love but understand this is remedial (like training wheels as we learn to ride a two-wheel bike) until we fully partake of the divine nature of perfect love. My dream is we choose to use structures that will point us to and nurtures our becoming love \u2013 that is authentic discipleship!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">I seem to find myself in a similar place as my friend Steve Crosby when he wrote, \u201cKingdom government is not about authority and ruling. It is about restoring and replicating in humanity, the love the Father and Son have for, and in, each other. Where love is perfected, authority is not necessary. There is no hierarchy, government or \u2018ruling over\u2019 in the Trinity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;\">Just shared, interpenetrating, eternal, self-giving, self-emptying love!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"One of the things we like to do as human beings is to figure out whose in charge, who runs things or if you like, who has the power. \u00a0Once we get an idea of where the power lies, we want to figure out what our position is relative to that power, and then, in&#8230;","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":8441,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,32],"tags":[93,99,110,175,286,300,348,554],"class_list":["post-8439","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-featured","category-significant-sustenance","tag-character-of-a-leader","tag-christian-formation","tag-community","tag-faith","tag-incarnation","tag-jesus","tag-love-paradigm","tag-wholeness-brokeness"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Culture of Love in the Trinity - Michael Rose<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"In the Trinity, they are One and Three; they esteem each other because they love each other, not based on what each may bring to the table or who holds the trump card. 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